Are Ezekiel 38 And 39 In Armageddon? :: By Bill Salus

On December 18, 2018, I posted a comprehensive article entitled Exploring the Timing of Ezekiel 38 and 39. It provided some basic arguments against Ezekiel’s prophecy happening as an Armageddon event. This article will attempt to further disconnect Ezekiel 38 and 39 from the Armageddon scenario.

Although it’s a minority view, there are a number of respected Bible teachers who teach the war in Ezekiel 38-39, Zechariah 14, and Revelation 19 are part of the same war that takes place as part of Armageddon. If they are correct, there arise a few potential problems, according to the biblical texts. These glitches will be addressed shortly, but beforehand, it’s important to understand what Ezekiel 38-39, Zechariah 14, and Revelation 19 are about.

Summary of Ezekiel 38 and 39

If you are unfamiliar with this prophecy, then you should read my easily understandable article entitled “An Overview of Ezekiel 38 and 39.”

In a nutshell, the Magog invasion involves a large coalition led by Russia, Turkey, and Iran, whose purpose is to conquer Israel to take plunder and booty. According to Ezekiel 38:8-13, Israel will be a much greater, safer, and wealthier nation at that time. Unlike the embattled Israel of today, Israel at that future time will be a thriving nation dwelling in a condition of peace and security.

This invasion infuriates God, Who then divinely defeats these invaders. As per Ezek. 38:19-22, this confederacy will be stopped supernaturally by a great earthquake followed by flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

Zechariah 14:1-3

“Behold, the day of the Lord is coming, And your spoil will be divided in your midst. For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then the Lord will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle” (Zech. 14:1-3).

This prophetic passage above describes a highly successful and devastating siege of Jerusalem. God will “gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem.” Subsequently, after the severe damage has been done, “the Lord will go forth And fight against those nations.” Revelation 19:11-21 explains how, single-handedly, Jesus Christ conquers these armies. Thus, Zech. 14:1-3 and Rev. 19:11 pair up together as integral parts of the Armageddon scenario.

“Now out of His (Jesus Christ’s) mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God” (Rev. 19:15, NKJV; emphasis added).

The Problems with Connecting Ezekiel 38-39 with Zechariah 14 and Revelation 19

With this basic understanding presented above, let’s identify the potential problems with pairing Ezekiel 38-39 up with Zechariah 14 and Revelation 19. If we attempt to align the biblical details within these various passages together, the unlikely scenario below occurs.

When the people of Israel are living in peace (Ezek. 38:14), all the nations of the earth’s armies (Zech 14:2) led by Russia, Turkey, Iran and the rest of the Magog invaders (Ezek. 38:2-6), will attack Jerusalem in Israel (Ezek. 38:15-16, Zech. 14:2). When this battle happens God will be extremely angered, and we are told His “fury will show in His face” (Ezek. 38:18-19).

So, how will God then unleash His blazing anger toward the armies on the day they invade Israel and attack the city of Jerusalem? Shockingly, HE WILL GATHER all the remaining world armies, that are separate from the already invading Magog nations, and bring them to attack Jerusalem to successfully capture the holy city of Jerusalem (Zech. 14:2).

“For I WILL GATHER all the nations to battle against Jerusalem” (Zech. 14:2a, NKJV; emphasis added).

These additional armies are headed by the beast, a.k.a, Antichrist (Rev. 19:19). Then, the Lord allots some time for the armies to loot houses and rape women in Jerusalem. The Lord also allows the armies some more time to take half of the population of Jerusalem and send them into exile (Zech. 14:2). Then, after all this heinous and despicable behavior, the Lord finally decides, “enough already,” and deploys Jesus Christ to single-handedly “go out to fight against those nations” (Zech. 14:3, Rev. 19:15-21, Ezek. 38:18-22).

This scenario does not only seem insensitive, but nonsensical! It makes God out to be a maniacal monster. Instead of unleashing immediate divine judgment upon the Magog invaders, God gathers additional international troops and gives Antichrist the keys to the holy city. NO, when the Magog Invasion happens and infuriates the Lord, this is what promptly takes place, according to Ezekiel.

“For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: ‘Surely in that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel, so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence. The mountains shall be thrown down, the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.’

“’I will call for a sword against Gog throughout all My mountains,’ says the Lord God. ‘Every man’s sword will be against his brother. And I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down on him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. Thus I will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the Lord’” (Ezek. 38:19-23).

Ezekiel declares, “Surely in that day… all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence.” This is not what happens in Zech. 14:2, when the armies of the earth conduct war crimes in Jerusalem and successfully besiege the holy city.

Some of the problems encountered by including Ezekiel 38-39 alongside Zechariah 14 and Revelation 19 as part of Armageddon are identified below.

Problem #1 – Two different and uncoordinated fronts, motives, and commanders

If Ezekiel 38-39 are part of Armageddon, this would mean that at the time of Armageddon Israel will face a massive two-front attack. The first front has the Magog invaders attacking Israel from the north (Ezek. 38:15) upon the mountains of Israel (Ezek. 38:8). They’re motivated to conquer Israel for plunder and booty (Ezek. 38:8-13). The Magog invaders are commanded by a Russian leader with an evil plan (Ezek. 38:10).

Meanwhile on the second front, all the nations of the earth’s armies are attacking Jerusalem. They are ransacking homes, ravishing women, and taking control of the holy city (Zech. 14:2). They are motivated to kill Israelis in the city of Jerusalem. Their mission is to commit Jewish genocide (Zech. 13:8). The earth’s armies are being led by the evil dictator, Antichrist (Rev. 19:19-20).

Problem #2 – Two different results

The war of Armageddon, if it includes Ezekiel 38-39, is entirely unsuccessful. These invaders are killed (Ezek. 38:19-23). Their weapons are converted into fuel for Israeli cities for seven years (Ezek. 39:9-10). Their corpses are buried for seven months (Ezek. 39:12-14).

On the other hand, the war of Armageddon in Zechariah 14 is totally successful. Jerusalem will be conquered, the houses get rifled, and the women ravished. Also, half of the city goes into captivity (Zech. 14:2).

Problem #3 – Two different defeats and burial locations

Gog, along with his hordes are destroyed supernaturally by God by a great earthquake followed by flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone (Ezek. 38:19-22). Then, they and Gog are buried in a place called the “Valley of Hamon Gog,” which means “valley of the Hordes of Gog.” Make note that Gog gets killed (Ezek. 39:11). This future cemetery is apparently named after Gog to memorialize God’s supernatural victory.

The Armageddon Campaign is defeated solely by Jesus Christ at His Second Coming by a “sharp sword” (Rev. 19:15). Perhaps this alludes typologically to a divine military scenario rather than through the natural disasters in Ezekiel 38. Moreover, the Antichrist is not killed but is cast alive into the “Lake of Fire” (Rev. 19:20).

Conclusion

The biblical text does not support the pairing of Ezekiel 38-39 with Zechariah 14 and Revelation 19 as an Armageddon related event. Thus, Ezekiel 38-39 happens at a separate time.

In my article entitled Exploring the Timing of Ezekiel 38 and 39, mentioned at the top of this piece, I present the case that Ezekiel 38-39 happens prior to the Tribulation Period. The article also put forward a few more reasons why Ezekiel 38-39 is not an Armageddon event. Below is an excerpt from this article that points this out.

“It is unlikely that Ezekiel 38-39 will happen during the Armageddon Campaign, which occurs within the second half of the Tribulation Period, for the following reasons:

1. Israelis will be fleeing from the genocidal attempt of the Antichrist.
2. Israelis will not likely be burning the enemies’ weapons.
3. Israelis gain world renown after Ezekiel 38, and that will not be the case during this part of the Tribulation period.

The second half of the Tribulation period is a time when the Jewish people are fleeing from the genocidal exploits of the Antichrist. Zechariah 13:8 informs that two-thirds of the Jews living in the land of Israel will be killed. Thus, the Jewish population living in Israel will be reduced to a third of its size at that time. This implies several things.

First, they will not be in a position to capitalize on the weapons of the Magog invaders to convert them into energy for seven years. This is a process and requires facilities, and any surviving Israeli Jews that attempt to undertake this activity will become easy targets for the Antichrist to find and kill.

“’Then those who dwell in the cities of Israel will go out and set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and bucklers, the bows and arrows, the javelins and spears; and they will make fires with them for seven years. They will not take wood from the field nor cut down any from the forests, because they will make fires with the weapons; and they will plunder those who plundered them, and pillage those who pillaged them,’ says the Lord God” (Ezek. 39:9-10).

Second, this one-third remnant of Israel will not be able to fulfill another aftermath activity of Ezekiel 39, which is to bury the dead Magog invaders for seven months. Between the burning of the enemy weapons for seven years and the burying the dead for seven months, Israel gains world renown for these two aforementioned endeavors.

“’It will come to pass in that day that I will give Gog a burial place there in Israel, the valley of those who pass by east of the sea; and it will obstruct travelers, because there they will bury Gog and all his multitude. Therefore they will call it the Valley of Hamon Gog. For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them, in order to cleanse the land. Indeed all the people of the land will be burying, and they will gain renown for it on the day that I am glorified,’ says the Lord God” (Ezek. 39:11-13).

These verses clearly state that Israelis gain world renown for these activities, but that won’t be the case when the Antichrist, with the support of much of the world masses, attempts to eliminate the Jewish race. Rather than gaining world renown, they will be experiencing persecution and worldwide Antisemitism!” (End of the excerpt).

Line Upon Line :: By Nathele Graham

Whom shall he teach knowledge? And whom shall he make to understand doctrine? Them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts(Isaiah 28:9).

Scripture is a treasure of information, yet most Christians don’t take the time to dig for that treasure. Too many times, the very people who should be driven to share this treasure simply pick and choose the noncontroversial Scriptures that make everybody feel good. In doing that, the integrity of God’s word is compromised. The preacher simply sorts through his own thoughts and talks about things that don’t upset the woke and politically correct agendas. In doing so, much of God’s word is compromised.

God’s word and expectations never change. His directions for our lives are best, and lusts of the flesh must be controlled.

In today’s world, it seems as if truth is optional. Much of the blame for this is directly caused by lack of sound Scriptural teaching within the Christian community. Pastors are more concerned about losing the tax-exempt status than losing souls to Hell.

There is still a remnant out there that holds God’s word as the authority. These Biblically sound men teach from Genesis through Revelation without trying to change what God meant when He said things like, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me(Exodus 20:3), and compare it with Jesus’ words, “…I am the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh to the Father but by me(John 14:6b).

The congregations who sit under false teachers need to demand truth and hold them accountable. God will.

Isaiah said that those who are weaned from milk can understand doctrine, but milk seems to be all that’s fed to Christians. It’s possible that the pastors don’t have knowledge of the Scriptures and therefore can’t wean their congregations. On more than one occasion, I asked a pastor a fairly basic question and got the very disturbing answer of “I don’t know.” Fortunately, I was able to find the answers I needed from other sources.

Once, my husband was very upset that the pastor didn’t teach that Jesus was God incarnate and skipped verses regarding this truth. One day, Ron asked the assistant pastor point blank, “Is Jesus God?” and got the answer, “Well, there are a few ideas on that subject.” Oh my. It wasn’t long until we found another place to attend, but that pastor put more emphasis on “my favorite atheist” and quoting rock and roll singers rather than on God’s word, and prayer was an afterthought rather than a matter of importance.

Peter had denied Christ, but Jesus knew that he would be a good leader. Perhaps the Holy Spirit can see promise in the pastors who fall short. After the resurrection, when Jesus met with the disciples on the shores of Galilee, Jesus spoke with Peter and restored him into fellowship and gave Peter his marching orders. Three times Jesus asked, “… Simon son of Jonas lovest thou me?…(John 21:15a, 16a, & 17a). Each time, Peter said yes. It would be good to do a word study on the word “love” used in this passage and see exactly what Jesus asked and what Peter replied.

The first time, Jesus told Peter, “Feed my lambs (John 21:15b). The second and third time, Jesus told Peter, “Feed my sheep(John 16b & 17b). Lambs need milk but will die if they are only fed milk. The sheep need more than milk. Peter obeyed and later wrote, “Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious(1 Peter 2:1-3).

Newborn babes in Christ need a firm foundation but also need to grow into deeper understanding. Line upon line and precept upon precept.

Paul was very disappointed with the congregation in Corinth. They were proud of the sin infiltrating the congregation, and it had to stop. This group of believers was ‘woke’ and tolerant of sin, very carnal in their thoughts and actions.

And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able” (1 Corinthians 3:1-2).

This wasn’t a compliment and could be written to many congregations today. We need to grow in our knowledge and understanding of God’s word. What a shame that Paul couldn’t talk to these brethren in grown-up terms. They had only been fed milk and weren’t able to deal with God’s greater knowledge. Because of this, sin permeated the congregation, and they tolerated things that they should have been appalled over.

What about your place of worship? Is sin accepted in order to keep the membership numbers up and the collection plate full? Teaching line upon line may offend some people, but it is the best way to teach.

I live in a small town that boasts of many churches, and the parking lots are full on Sunday mornings. What’s being fed to the flock? I’ve been very disturbed over the number of very heinous sexual assaults against children, and have wondered how these evil acts seem to be overlooked by the Christian population. My feeling is that Satan is getting a foothold here, and I’ve prayed.

A few weeks ago, I stumbled upon the answer to what’s happening. I had visitors from out of town, and they wanted to see various things around town. The clerk in the motel suggested a certain business…a mall…so off we went. I had never been there before, but there are many places in town I haven’t been to. When we got there, we found a very dirty (filthy) place with large tubs catching the rainwater running from the ceiling. The walls were mostly just old studs. I’m not sure why we went any further into the building, but we did. Finally, we saw a light coming from a shop in the back of the building, so we headed that way. I stopped immediately without entering. It was a Wiccan shop that had a sign saying, “Come in and sit for a spell.” We left immediately. This was the answer to the child abuse and other crimes happening in this little town with so many churches.

I’m not advocating that the owners should be burned at the stake, or tarred and feathered, but where are the prayer warriors? I’ve been praying daily against this evil spirit and that the owners will meet Jesus.

A large problem with Christian teaching is denial of the evil that Satan promotes. It’s OK to know that God is a supernatural being…God is love and all is sugar and spice, but it’s wrong to even mention the evil supernatural that’s waiting to pounce on weak lambs who have only been fed milk.

If Scripture is taught line upon line and precept upon precept, we’ll learn about the enemy, the evil supernatural enemy. Eve chatted with him in the Garden of Eden, and Adam just stupidly went along in disobedience to God. They lost Paradise for all of us. Outside of the Garden, there were struggles and hardships, but the population grew. Eventually, the fallen angels had sexual relations with human women, and God was forced to destroy all of creation by the Flood.

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose (Genesis 6:1-2).

If you’ve been taught that this was Cain’s daughters marrying Seth’s sons, you’ve been fed milk. Except for Noah, his family (who were genetically pure), and a few animals, the whole world met with God’s wrath.

Scripture is never lax in speaking of evil and how important it is to trust God, so why do pastors avoid teaching the truth? Is it because they haven’t been weaned from milk themselves? It’s time for meat to be served.

Scripture doesn’t avoid the issue of evil supernatural; God loved the Israelites enough to warn them about the spiritual evils to avoid. “When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations(Deuteronomy 18:9).

Today, we don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings by confronting sin.

A line-by-line study through Scripture reveals how important it is to trust and obey God. “There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee(Deuteronomy 18:10-12).

What does it mean to pass your children through the fire? That’s offering your children to a demon god through murder. Today, we “tolerate” abortion of our sons and daughters. This is nothing less than offering a human sacrifice to a demon god.

God doesn’t wink at sin, nor does He accept it. How many pastors just keep on following the Rick Warren and Joel Osteen type of teaching that is skim milk? This has to stop, and we need pastors who aren’t afraid to stand firm on Scripture.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou has forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children(Hosea 4:6).

Hosea was a prophet and warned Israel to turn back to God. I’m not a prophet, but I am warning Christians to turn back to God and humbly accept and obey His authority.

God doesn’t want anybody to fight this spiritual battle unarmed. Nor does He want us to fight in a weakened state because we’ve only been fed milk. We need to be a well-fed army. Study Scripture. Study all of Scripture. The Old Testament is mostly the history of Israel, but the truth and prophecy it holds are definitely for us today. The New Testament is about the fulfillment of the Old Testament and the precious love of Jesus.

Jesus knew the spiritual battle is real, and He cast out demons. He didn’t make a circus of it by sprinkling “holy water” or using useless rituals. He just told them to leave. Use Jesus as your example and take authority in His name.

The Apostle Paul was on the frontline of the fight and knew very well that he had to be skilled in the use of battle armor. “Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil(Ephesians 6:10-11).

Don’t pick your favorite piece of armor. Put it all on and don’t take it off. In the same way that all the armor is important, so is the line-upon-line study of Scripture. You can’t be armed for battle if you don’t know how to use the battle tools.

Why do we need the armor? “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places(Ephesians 6:12). These are all demonic spiritual enemies. This is the same evil that is spewing from a small shop hidden in a rundown building where I live. We have to fight.

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints(Ephesians 6:13-18).

Study all of Scripture and you’ll learn to recognize the enemy and also become skilled in using the weapons of battle. Study line upon line.

I’m just a woman who is getting up in years. My health isn’t such that I can be boots on the ground in battle, but I can be a watchman and sound the alarm. “But I the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand(Ezekiel 33:6).

I’ve just scratched the surface of why it’s important to study Scripture line upon line. I do mean study, not just read. The spiritual battle is real, and Scripture will teach you to recognize the enemy and will provide the weapons for battle. We sing songs like “Onward Christian Soldiers,” but if the soldiers are only sent into battle with a canteen of milk, the battle will go to the enemy. Shame on those given the responsibility of feeding the sheep but are only feeding lambs.

As we draw closer to the Rapture, this battle will become more aggressive. Don’t wait for your pastor to feed you meat. Study for yourself line upon line and precept upon precept.

Always remember that Jesus loves you and gave His life for your salvation. The Holy Spirit lives in every Christian, and we need to trust Him now in the spiritual fight.

God bless you all,

Nathele Graham

twotug@embarqmail.com

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